Film and Mind Online: ~ DOUBLE FEATURE ~ Ted K and Good Luck, Leo Grande

May 12, 2023, 8:30 - 10:00 PM

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A photo of the Unibomer, next to it a photo of a couple who have an obvious age difference disheveled in bed

On May 12, Film & Mind explores what makes a transformative movie with a doubleheader of two films of vastly different subject matter—Ted K ("The Unabomber”) and Good Luck to You, Leo Grande. We will consider how each illustrates the art of universalist filmmaking while exploring specific and psychoanalytically important themes.

Ted K (2022, 2 hours, directed by Tony Stone) is a remarkably interesting film about the pathological idealism of domestic terrorist Ted Kaczynski, the Unabomber of the late 20th century. Utilizing a spare voiceover (culled from Kaczynski’s voluminous “Manifesto” ) and shot in the remote mountainous area of Montana where the Unabomber was arrested, the film invites us into the autistic mind of Kaczynski and his 17-year-long battle with technology and environmental devastation. With careful handling by director Stone and sensitive portrayal by Shallot Copley, we are able to identify with the Unabomber’s rationalizations and his building fury and frustration. The subjective perspective spares the audience the bloody horror of the actual bombings, and brilliantly leaves us pondering the extent to which the madman was a monster.

Good Luck to You, Leo Grande (2022, directed by Sophie Hyde, 97 minutes). A young sex worker with the skills of a psychotherapist + an older, widowed school teacher (Emma Thompson) who has never experienced an orgasm = Mutual Maturation in four sessions.

*Available on Amazon Prime and others. The films are also available at no cost to screen with membership on HULU. See link below.

Registration will be open until 4:30 PM on the day of the event. We cannot take registrations after this time.  


*** All times listed are Pacific Time (PT) ***

Discussion (on Zoom): 8:30 PM - 10:00 PM - We will hear from our discussants and explore the films together. 

We will not watch the films together prior to the discussion. Participants should watch the films beforehand or begin screening on their own before 5:00 pm PT (the combined viewing time is about 3.5 hours).

1.5 CE/CME credits

Learning Objectives:

(Discussion of both movies)

As a result of attending this session, participants should be able to:

  • Discuss how examination of suppressed family truths with an uninvolved third party can promote emotional growth and development
  • Describe specific interventions of Leo Grande (other than physical touching) that are essentially psychotherapeutic maneuvers   
  • Compare the boundary-protective “rules” in this film with those in a course of psychoanalytic psychotherapy and discuss what value they offer
  • Discuss the obsessional fixations often manifest in individuals on the autistic spectrum, and differentiate from the patterns seen in neurotypical obsessives
  • Discuss the approach(es) you would take if the Ted Kaczynski character were brought to you for treatment in the correctional facility in which he presently resides. What if he came to you for psychological help before his first felonious bombing?

Discussant Bios:

Seth Alt, PhD, is a cultural theorist and researcher whose area of expertise explores the intersections of psychoanalysis, museums, digital technology, and audience studies. Seth is a member of the IFLF (International Forums of the Lacanian Field) and a newly inscribed doctorate of Claremont Graduate University's Cultural Studies program, with a dissertation titled "The Pervert's Guide to the Museum." 

Dahlia Nissan Russ, PsyD, LCSW, is a psychoanalyst with a private practice in West Los Angeles. She is a senior faculty member at the New Center for Psychoanalysis. 

Thomas M. Brod, MD, Distinguished Life Fellow of the American Psychiatric Association, is an Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the UCLA Geffen School of Medicine. He is a senior faculty member at NCP and the co-coordinator of the Film and Mind Series.

Discussion Moderator:

Thomas M. Brod, MD. Dr. Brod coordinates the NCP Film & Mind Program with Apurva Shah, MD.

Target audience: Mental health professionals and open to the public interested in psychoanalytic perspectives. Open to members and the community.
Level: Every level.

1.5 CE/CME Credits
$15 with CE Credit
$7 without Credit  

This is an online event. What you need to know:

  • Register below and you will get an email with the Zoom link. The Zoom link will also be sent on the day of the event after 4:30 PM.
  • The discussion will start at 8:30 pm in the Zoom Meeting room. Participants should watch the film on their own before joining.
  • We cannot provide technical support for the viewing of the movies, but will be in the Zoom meeting to help facilitate the discussion.  

 Where to get the movies:  

Ted K Amazon Prime, HBO Max, Apple TV and more (click for options)


Good Luck to You, Leo Grande Amazon Prime, HBO Max, Apple TV and more (click for options)

"How do I get my CE/CME Credit?"

  1. Pre-Register below
    • If you are registering for the first time you will receive a welcome email. You must follow the directions in this email to complete your registration in order to access your certificates. 
  2. Sign in and sign out during the event (by typing your full name into the chat). This is how we record your attendance at the event.
  3. Wait 5 business days
  4. Download your Certificate on the NCP website


IMPORTANT DISCLOSURE INFORMATION FOR ALL LEARNERS: None of the planners and presenters for this educational activity have relevant financial relationship(s)* to disclose with ineligible companies* whose primary business is producing, marketing, selling, re-selling, or distributing healthcare products used by or on patients.

*Financial relationships are relevant if the educational content an individual can control is related to the business lines or products of the ineligible company.

-Updated July 2021-

PHYSICIANS: This activity has been planned and implemented in accordance with the accreditation requirements and policies of the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME) through the joint providership of American Psychoanalytic Association and The New Center for Psychoanalysis. The American Psychoanalytic Association is accredited by the ACCME to provide continuing medical education for physicians.” 

The American Psychoanalytic Association designates this Live Activity for a maximum of 1.5 AMA PRA Category 1 Credit(s)™. Physicians should claim only the credit commensurate with the extent of their participation in the activity.

PSYCHOLOGISTS: The New Center for Psychoanalysis is approved by the American Psychological Association to sponsor continuing education for psychologists.  The New Center for Psychoanalysis maintains responsibility for this program and its content. Psychologists must report CE credits directly to MCEP using this document to verify attendance. Please note that a Psychologist must attend the CE program in its entirety in order to receive credit.  

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