Film and Mind Online: Da 5 Bloods

October 9, 2020, 6:00 - 10:15 PM



Join NCP as we take our Film and Mind series online!

images/da_5_bloods.jpg(2hr 34 min) (2020) Spike Lee explores the twin traumas of the war in Vietnam and racial injustice at home.  We will use the screening of the film to have a guided discussion of these two psychologically dislocating conditions.  "“Da 5 Bloods” runs two hours and thirty-four minutes, but it’s not a second too long. On the contrary, it feels compressed, bustling, and frenzied with its intellectual and dramatic energy. The action—and there’s plenty of it—is intense, furious, yet parsed with a magisterial assurance, in images that range from the sculpturally iconic to the screen-piercingly intimate”--Richard Brody, The New Yorker.

We will watch the film together on Netflix (silent comments on Zoom chat) and then meet as a Zoom group for discussion.  Apurva Shah MD and Hannah Roggenkamp MD will lead of with thought-provoking comments, and then we will have a general discussion on the issues raised.

*Streaming is available on Netflix.

Space is limited to 25 participants. 

Registration will be open until 4:30 PM on the day of the event. We cannot take registrations after this time. 

* Note that we will begin watching the movie at 6:00 pm to accommodate the length of the film.


6:00 PM - 8:35 PM: Group viewing of the movie with a silent chat. We will join the Zoom meeting and press "play" simultaneously to watch the movie together. Please purchase the movie before joining the meeting. (Viewing with the group is optional. You can purchase and watch prior to this and still participate in the discussion.) No credit

8:45 PM - 10:15 PM: Discussion begins. We will hear from our discussants and explore the film together. 

1.5 CE/CME credits

Learning Objectives:

As a result of attending this session, participants should be able to

  • List examples of racism “hiding in plain sight” experienced by Veterans of Color during and since the Vietnam War
  • Describe how combat-related events lead to PTSD and their long-term effects on health, self, and relationships
  • Elucidate the psychological case for Reparations
  • Identify some of the psychodynamics underlying racism.



Hannah Roggenkamp, MD, serves as the acting deputy section chief for outpatient trauma treatment within the Greater LA VA Healthcare system and is Clinical Instructor at Geffen-UCLA School of Medicine. Dr. Roggenkamp specializes in studying and treating combat PTSD, moral injury and blast traumatic brain injury.  She specializes in intensive short-term dynamic psychotherapy, and has wide-ranging teaching responsibilities within the UCLA and Greater LA VA psychiatry residency programs. 

Apurva Shah, MD, is a child and adolescent psychiatrist, and the chief of the department at Kaiser Permanente in Antelope Valley. An Associate member of the New Center for Psychoanalysis, he is the co-coordinator of the Film and Mind Series. He is also the Founding Director and Faculty at the Antarnad Foundation, a not-for-profit psychoanalytic psychotherapy training program, in Ahmedabad, India. In his publications, he focuses on the cultural facets of the psyche, using examples from movies.


Target audience: Mental health professionals and open to the public interested in psychoanalytic perspectives. Open to members and the community.

Level: Every level.

1.5 CE/CME Credits

$15 with CE Credit

$7 without Credit


This is an online event. What you need to know:

  • Registration is limited to 25 people.
  • Register below and you will get an email with the Zoom link.
  • You can join other attendees to watch the film "together" (in your own home) at 6:00 pm and even silently comment in the Zoom Meeting “chat” function, or watch it on your own beforehand.
  • The official discussion will start at 8:45 pm in the Zoom Meeting room.
  • We cannot provide technical support for the viewing of the movie, but will be in the Zoom meeting to help facilitate the discussion.  


Where to get the movie:


"How do I get my CE/CME Credit?"

  1. Pre-Register below
    • If you are registering for the first time you will receive a welcome email. You must follow the directions in this email to complete your registration in order to access your certificates. 
  2. You will receive an email with an evaluation 2 days after the event
  3. Complete the evaluation
  4. Wait 2 business days
  5. Download your Certificate on the NCP website



IMPORTANT DISCLOSURE INFORMATION FOR ALL LEARNERS: None of the planners and presenters of this CME/CE program have any relevant financial relationships to disclose. 

PHYSICIANS: This activity has been planned and implemented in accordance with the accreditation requirements and policies of the Accreditation Council for Continuing Medical Education (ACCME) through the joint providership of the American Psychoanalytic Association and the New Center for Psychoanalysis. The American Psychoanalytic Association is accredited by the ACCME to provide continuing medical education for physicians. 

The American Psychoanalytic Association designates this Live Activity for the maximum of 1.5 AMA PRA Category 1 Credit(s)™. Physicians should claim only the credit commensurate with the extent of their participation in the activity.  

PSYCHOLOGISTS: The New Center for Psychoanalysis is approved by the American Psychological Association to sponsor continuing education for psychologists. New Center for Psychoanalysis maintains responsibility for this program and its content. Full attendance is required for psychologists to receive credit; partial credit may not be awarded based on APA guidelines. For the psychologists’ records, certificates of attendance are provided at the completion of the course.  

SOCIAL WORKERS, MARRIAGE and FAMILY THERAPISTS (LCSW, LMFT, ASW, IMF, LEP, LPCC, PCCI): The New Center for Psychoanalysis is a continuing education provider that has been approved by the American Psychological Association, a California Board of Behavioral Sciences recognized approval agency. 

REGISTERED NURSES: The New Center for Psychoanalysis is an accredited provider approved by the California Board of Registered Nursing (Provider #CEP1112). Registered Nurses may claim only the actual number of hours spent in the educational activity for credit.

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